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		<title>By: Vlogmid the Necromancer</title>
		<link>http://www.filmforensics.com/autopsy/2004/08/05/matrix-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlogmid the Necromancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a comment on an earlier version of the Matrix Sequels Film Forensics, which I have just found on my hard drive and will now take the unpardonable liberty of repeating:

Iâ€™ve only seen one of the Matrix sequels- I have a vague idea it was called â€˜The Matrix goes Bananasâ€™ and so will largely confine my comments to the original (in all senses) fundamentally gee-whiz and good film. I have only two things to say about the sequels:

*The scene at the end of &#039;Carry On Up the Matrix&#039; where Neo finds he can control stuff in the â€˜real worldâ€™. That belongs in the first ten minutes. So he can control stuff in the real world; thatâ€™s kind of exciting, I guess. Now explore the ramifications. (Time allowed: 90 minutes). 

*They should have been given to the people who made â€˜Highlander 2â€™; now there was a sequel true to the spirit of the original.

As far as the real Matrix goes:

*the humans provide the computing power, like Androoo says.

*In Morpheusâ€™ original back story, make it bleeding obvious that â€˜realâ€™ history diverged from our history at an identifiable point in our past. When the first computer capable of processing a thousand operations per second was made and turned out to be superintelligent (in 1957, say), thatâ€™s when it happened. This world is the Matrix. You donâ€™t really think itâ€™s possible to get all that computing power on that tiny little chip, do you? Canâ€™t you feel the shiver run down your spine? 

*thereâ€™s no reason why time in the Matrix has to run at the same rate as it does in â€˜real lifeâ€™. Thereâ€™s no reason why people need to look the same in the Matrix as they do in â€˜real lifeâ€™. Make Neo a woman. Make Neo an old woman, who has already lived one complete life in the Matrix. Make Neo Susan Calvin, the kickass ice-queen roboticist who built ENIAC in the first place. Thatâ€™s why (s)heâ€™s important. Which brings me toâ€¦

*cut out all the mystical crap. Not necessary, not interesting, obscures all that is interesting and gives a stupid Deus ex machina out whenever the plot is written into a corner. 

*the goal of â€˜freeingâ€™ people from the Matrix is untenable; the Matrix is obviously the only way this world can support the human population it does. Should people be told about the Matrix? If they are, will they believe it? If they do, will they (really, deep down) care, or will they learn to ignore it as another layer of the plumbing thatâ€™s not really them, like we ignore our biochemistry. Does it really matter if this world isnâ€™t â€˜realâ€™? 
Like Hesse said:  â€œI consider reality to be the last thing one need concern oneself about, for it, tediously enough, always present, while more beautiful and necessary things demand our attention and care. Reality is what one must not under any circumstances be satisfied with, what one must not under any circumstances worship and revere, for it is accidental, the offal of life.â€  There is a good in here for the sort of arguments people have all the time in Greg Eganâ€™s books- is virtual better, or real better? How much should virtual ape real to maintain consistency? If there is no way of splitting the Matrix into separate worlds with their own rules, these arguments will gain a lot more immediacy than they have in Greg Egan&#039;s Diaspora.  

* thereâ€™s no reason why death in the Matrix has to mean death in â€˜real lifeâ€™. The Matrix could be a world where reincarnation was literally true. Maybe being killed in the Matrix messes up your brain, so itâ€™s easier to start your â€˜Matrix selfâ€™ again from scratch. Or maybe you have to go to a cut-scene where you drink tea (yours is the cloudy one) and chat with some minor bureaucrat of the Celestial Empireâ€¦
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a comment on an earlier version of the Matrix Sequels Film Forensics, which I have just found on my hard drive and will now take the unpardonable liberty of repeating:</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve only seen one of the Matrix sequels- I have a vague idea it was called â€˜The Matrix goes Bananasâ€™ and so will largely confine my comments to the original (in all senses) fundamentally gee-whiz and good film. I have only two things to say about the sequels:</p>
<p>*The scene at the end of &#8216;Carry On Up the Matrix&#8217; where Neo finds he can control stuff in the â€˜real worldâ€™. That belongs in the first ten minutes. So he can control stuff in the real world; thatâ€™s kind of exciting, I guess. Now explore the ramifications. (Time allowed: 90 minutes). </p>
<p>*They should have been given to the people who made â€˜Highlander 2â€™; now there was a sequel true to the spirit of the original.</p>
<p>As far as the real Matrix goes:</p>
<p>*the humans provide the computing power, like Androoo says.</p>
<p>*In Morpheusâ€™ original back story, make it bleeding obvious that â€˜realâ€™ history diverged from our history at an identifiable point in our past. When the first computer capable of processing a thousand operations per second was made and turned out to be superintelligent (in 1957, say), thatâ€™s when it happened. This world is the Matrix. You donâ€™t really think itâ€™s possible to get all that computing power on that tiny little chip, do you? Canâ€™t you feel the shiver run down your spine? </p>
<p>*thereâ€™s no reason why time in the Matrix has to run at the same rate as it does in â€˜real lifeâ€™. Thereâ€™s no reason why people need to look the same in the Matrix as they do in â€˜real lifeâ€™. Make Neo a woman. Make Neo an old woman, who has already lived one complete life in the Matrix. Make Neo Susan Calvin, the kickass ice-queen roboticist who built ENIAC in the first place. Thatâ€™s why (s)heâ€™s important. Which brings me toâ€¦</p>
<p>*cut out all the mystical crap. Not necessary, not interesting, obscures all that is interesting and gives a stupid Deus ex machina out whenever the plot is written into a corner. </p>
<p>*the goal of â€˜freeingâ€™ people from the Matrix is untenable; the Matrix is obviously the only way this world can support the human population it does. Should people be told about the Matrix? If they are, will they believe it? If they do, will they (really, deep down) care, or will they learn to ignore it as another layer of the plumbing thatâ€™s not really them, like we ignore our biochemistry. Does it really matter if this world isnâ€™t â€˜realâ€™?<br />
Like Hesse said:  â€œI consider reality to be the last thing one need concern oneself about, for it, tediously enough, always present, while more beautiful and necessary things demand our attention and care. Reality is what one must not under any circumstances be satisfied with, what one must not under any circumstances worship and revere, for it is accidental, the offal of life.â€  There is a good in here for the sort of arguments people have all the time in Greg Eganâ€™s books- is virtual better, or real better? How much should virtual ape real to maintain consistency? If there is no way of splitting the Matrix into separate worlds with their own rules, these arguments will gain a lot more immediacy than they have in Greg Egan&#8217;s Diaspora.  </p>
<p>* thereâ€™s no reason why death in the Matrix has to mean death in â€˜real lifeâ€™. The Matrix could be a world where reincarnation was literally true. Maybe being killed in the Matrix messes up your brain, so itâ€™s easier to start your â€˜Matrix selfâ€™ again from scratch. Or maybe you have to go to a cut-scene where you drink tea (yours is the cloudy one) and chat with some minor bureaucrat of the Celestial Empireâ€¦</p>
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		<title>By: shellshear</title>
		<link>http://www.filmforensics.com/autopsy/2004/08/05/matrix-sequels/comment-page-1/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>shellshear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting!  It does appear very arbitary and poorly motivated/resolved - I&#039;m actually glad that there was *something* behind it, even if I didn&#039;t like that something.  I deeply suspected that they didn&#039;t have a world view at all, and were simply throwing out random text designed to sound profound.  I guess it&#039;s the same with modern art, sometimes: I don&#039;t appreciate it, and I&#039;m suspicious that there&#039;s even something to appreciate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting!  It does appear very arbitary and poorly motivated/resolved &#8211; I&#8217;m actually glad that there was *something* behind it, even if I didn&#8217;t like that something.  I deeply suspected that they didn&#8217;t have a world view at all, and were simply throwing out random text designed to sound profound.  I guess it&#8217;s the same with modern art, sometimes: I don&#8217;t appreciate it, and I&#8217;m suspicious that there&#8217;s even something to appreciate.</p>
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		<title>By: Strangelander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strangelander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 04:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Watchowski Siblings were hawking their odd concoction of Christian/Buddhist/Gnostic philosophy. There are loads of references to these belief systems, so much so that the plot suffers. They sacrifice logic for visual. Add to that their kinky fetishes and you&#039;ve got quite a hodgepodge. No part works fully, in my opinion. It&#039;s all too clever, too arcane, apparently arbitrary. I do like your idea of using human minds in parallel to create a giant processor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Watchowski Siblings were hawking their odd concoction of Christian/Buddhist/Gnostic philosophy. There are loads of references to these belief systems, so much so that the plot suffers. They sacrifice logic for visual. Add to that their kinky fetishes and you&#8217;ve got quite a hodgepodge. No part works fully, in my opinion. It&#8217;s all too clever, too arcane, apparently arbitrary. I do like your idea of using human minds in parallel to create a giant processor.</p>
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